Question

[BarryF]

Your email program puts the "greater than" signs there.  I plead not guilty.

If you do a search for "google chrome" on your favorite search engine, you'll find a site that will allow you to download and install the browser with a couple clicks of the mouse.  Microsoft relies on the fact that 90% of the people use their browser.  That's because it comes packaged with their software.  They also collect information on exactly what sites you visit, using their browser.  It's quite a racket.

Cheers,
Barry


--- On Thu, 11/27/08, Ray W. Justus <rwjustus at cox.net> wrote:

> From: Ray W. Justus <rwjustus at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: Question
> To: "Farnsworth Family History mailing list" <history at farnsworth.org>
> Date: Thursday, November 27, 2008, 12:33 PM
> Gentlemen,
> 
> You are asking a lot for novice and non-technical computer
> users to download and install browsers other than the
> default one that comes with the operating system.  I doubt
> that you will have much success converting the world to your
> way of thinking.  They are out here to do genealogy, not
> become computer gurus.  Like it or not, Microsoft Internet
> Explorer is the default browser for more then 90% of the
> public.
> 
> Just my 2¢
> 
> Actually, you don't appear too literate yourself,
> Barry.  Look at what you did to Dale's message below
> yours.  Those greater than signs at the beginning of each
> line make it virtually unreadable.
> 
> Ray Justus
> Chandler, Arizona
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "BarryF" <bfarnsworth at yahoo.com>
> To: "Farnsworth Family History mailing list"
> <history at farnsworth.org>
> Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 11:07 AM
> Subject: Re: Qustion
> 
> 
> You can use the new Google Chrome browser, which also
> allows you to proceed.  It's a pretty nice browser.
> 
> Barry
> 
> 
> --- On Thu, 11/27/08, Dale Farnsworth
> <dale at farnsworth.org> wrote:
> 
> > From: Dale Farnsworth <dale at farnsworth.org>
> > Subject: Re: Qustion
> > To: "Farnsworth Family History mailing list"
> <history at farnsworth.org>
> > Date: Thursday, November 27, 2008, 11:55 AM
> > On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 01:01:19AM -0500,
> > Grampa_Jeff at bellsouth.net wrote:
> > > Why do all the links say something about
> certificate
> > error : navigation blocked?
> > 
> > Hi Jeff,
> > 
> > First, you say "all the links".  If it is
> truly
> > all links, then
> > something is misconfigured on your end and you may
> > disregard the rest
> > of this message.  However, if it is just a few links,
> then
> > read on.
> > 
> > The answer to this question is surprisingly complex,
> and I
> > won't be able
> > to go into all the details, but I'll give an
> overview.
> > 
> > I need a way to exchange information privately
> (without
> > eavesdropping)
> > with users of the website--for example, when
> submitting
> > passwords for
> > managing a subscription to the Farnsworth history
> mailing
> > list.  The
> > https protocol is the best way to do this, so I use it
> for
> > the secure
> > pages on www.farnsworth.org. Most pages on
> > www.farnsworth.org, like most
> > of the internet, use the http protocol which provides
> no
> > such eavesdropping
> > protection.
> > 
> > In addition, the https protocol provides for
> authenticating
> > a web server
> > via encrypted "certificates".  A website
> owner
> > can register that website
> > with a certificate authority, for a minimum of about
> > US$75.00 per year,
> > and the certificate authority will provide a
> > computer-readable
> > certificate that certifies (to some degree) that the
> > website has been
> > registered.
> > 
> > The guarantees provided by such website registration
> are
> > minimal and are
> > of little value for www.farnsworth.org, so I have
> opted not
> > to register
> > the site.  (At $75/year, it's almost cheap enough
> for
> > me to do it to
> > avoid the aggravation of questions like this, but
> > that's $75/year per
> > website, and they begin to add up.)  Instead, I
> provide a
> > self-signed
> > certificate.  In effect, I specify that my website is
> run
> > by me.  This
> > still provides the full anti-eavesdropping protection.
> > 
> > This works fine with some web browsers.  Firefox, for
> > example, allows
> > you to simply acknowledge that you understand the
> website
> > has not been
> > registered, and to permanently accept the
> website's
> > unregistered certificate.
> > Internet Explorer used to do the same.  However, in
> the
> > last few years,
> > Microsoft decided to make this more difficult for
> users of
> > Internet
> > Explorer and now provides no easy way to accept
> > certificates for
> > unregistered web sites.  With Internet Explorer, you
> can
> > only accept
> > these unregistered certificates temporarily, until the
> next
> > time you
> > restart Internet Explorer.
> > 
> > I'm sorry for the inconvenience, but I'm too
> cheap
> > to pay the $75/year
> > on Microsoft's whim.
> > 
> > I recommend using Firefox, instead of Internet
> Explorer,
> > which will
> > solve the problem on your end.  Firefox is much better
> than
> > Internet
> > Explorer for security reasons as well.  It can be
> legally
> > downloaded
> > for free from
> > <http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/>.
> > 
> > -Dale
> > 
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