Question

[Ray W. Justus]

Gentlemen,

You are asking a lot for novice and non-technical computer users to download and install browsers other than the default one that comes with the operating system.  I doubt that you will have much success converting the world to your way of thinking.  They are out here to do genealogy, not become computer gurus.  Like it or not, Microsoft Internet Explorer is the default browser for more then 90% of the public.

Just my 2¢

Actually, you don't appear too literate yourself, Barry.  Look at what you did to Dale's message below yours.  Those greater than signs at the beginning of each line make it virtually unreadable.

Ray Justus
Chandler, Arizona

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "BarryF" <bfarnsworth at yahoo.com>
To: "Farnsworth Family History mailing list" <history at farnsworth.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: Qustion


You can use the new Google Chrome browser, which also allows you to proceed.  It's a pretty nice browser.

Barry


--- On Thu, 11/27/08, Dale Farnsworth <dale at farnsworth.org> wrote:

> From: Dale Farnsworth <dale at farnsworth.org>
> Subject: Re: Qustion
> To: "Farnsworth Family History mailing list" <history at farnsworth.org>
> Date: Thursday, November 27, 2008, 11:55 AM
> On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 01:01:19AM -0500,
> Grampa_Jeff at bellsouth.net wrote:
> > Why do all the links say something about certificate
> error : navigation blocked?
> 
> Hi Jeff,
> 
> First, you say "all the links".  If it is truly
> all links, then
> something is misconfigured on your end and you may
> disregard the rest
> of this message.  However, if it is just a few links, then
> read on.
> 
> The answer to this question is surprisingly complex, and I
> won't be able
> to go into all the details, but I'll give an overview.
> 
> I need a way to exchange information privately (without
> eavesdropping)
> with users of the website--for example, when submitting
> passwords for
> managing a subscription to the Farnsworth history mailing
> list.  The
> https protocol is the best way to do this, so I use it for
> the secure
> pages on www.farnsworth.org. Most pages on
> www.farnsworth.org, like most
> of the internet, use the http protocol which provides no
> such eavesdropping
> protection.
> 
> In addition, the https protocol provides for authenticating
> a web server
> via encrypted "certificates".  A website owner
> can register that website
> with a certificate authority, for a minimum of about
> US$75.00 per year,
> and the certificate authority will provide a
> computer-readable
> certificate that certifies (to some degree) that the
> website has been
> registered.
> 
> The guarantees provided by such website registration are
> minimal and are
> of little value for www.farnsworth.org, so I have opted not
> to register
> the site.  (At $75/year, it's almost cheap enough for
> me to do it to
> avoid the aggravation of questions like this, but
> that's $75/year per
> website, and they begin to add up.)  Instead, I provide a
> self-signed
> certificate.  In effect, I specify that my website is run
> by me.  This
> still provides the full anti-eavesdropping protection.
> 
> This works fine with some web browsers.  Firefox, for
> example, allows
> you to simply acknowledge that you understand the website
> has not been
> registered, and to permanently accept the website's
> unregistered certificate.
> Internet Explorer used to do the same.  However, in the
> last few years,
> Microsoft decided to make this more difficult for users of
> Internet
> Explorer and now provides no easy way to accept
> certificates for
> unregistered web sites.  With Internet Explorer, you can
> only accept
> these unregistered certificates temporarily, until the next
> time you
> restart Internet Explorer.
> 
> I'm sorry for the inconvenience, but I'm too cheap
> to pay the $75/year
> on Microsoft's whim.
> 
> I recommend using Firefox, instead of Internet Explorer,
> which will
> solve the problem on your end.  Firefox is much better than
> Internet
> Explorer for security reasons as well.  It can be legally
> downloaded
> for free from
> <http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/>.
> 
> -Dale
> 
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